Comments on: Brandana: A Discredit to Women in Politics http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/ Thoughts from a wordsmithing WAHM on writing, parenting, being a WAHM and life in general. Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:34:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: emsgeiss http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/#comment-641 emsgeiss Fri, 08 Aug 2008 06:51:22 +0000 http://geisswordsmith.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-641 You're making me cry (again), PROUDFATHER! Tuesday night is still so surreal. From your mouth to God's ears that whomever is representing us beginning in January, can set about to getting real work done and remember first and foremost, that it's not about them, it's about all of us and what's good for Michigan. (And hopefully, those in D.C. can remember the same as well about us as a nation.) We love you too! (D just read your comment.) -Erika You’re making me cry (again), PROUDFATHER! Tuesday night is still so surreal.

From your mouth to God’s ears that whomever is representing us beginning in January, can set about to getting real work done and remember first and foremost, that it’s not about them, it’s about all of us and what’s good for Michigan. (And hopefully, those in D.C. can remember the same as well about us as a nation.)

We love you too! (D just read your comment.)
-Erika

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By: PROUDFATHER http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/#comment-640 PROUDFATHER Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:48:20 +0000 http://geisswordsmith.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-640 Erika and Doug a great job from a proud father........It always pays to take the high road and not run against someone but for something, a BETTER MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!The problems of our cities, state, country and yes the world can only be solved by working together with GODS BLESSING and through PEACE.......The election will be over on November 4, 2008, but the problems that must be addressed will still be with us in January 2009 when the new Legislature in Lansing and the New Congress in Washington take office.........Democrats must listen to Republican and Republican must listen to Democrats......When I came to Washington in 1982 the only question the Michigan Delegation asked each other was, "Is it good for Michigan?", If it was, they all voted as one. We must start doing the same for America. Always remember to vote the interest of my Grandchildren, as Bill Ford did for my children, EDUCATION,EDUCATION,EDUCATION,EDUCATION,........Love Dad Erika and Doug a great job from a proud father……..It always pays to take the high road and not run against someone but for something, a BETTER MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!The problems of our cities, state, country and yes the world can only be solved by working together with GODS BLESSING and through PEACE…….The election will be over on November 4, 2008, but the problems that must be addressed will still be with us in January 2009 when the new Legislature in Lansing and the New Congress in Washington take office………Democrats must listen to Republican and Republican must listen to Democrats……When I came to Washington in 1982 the only question the Michigan Delegation asked each other was, “Is it good for Michigan?”, If it was, they all voted as one. We must start doing the same for America. Always remember to vote the interest of my Grandchildren, as Bill Ford did for my children, EDUCATION,EDUCATION,EDUCATION,EDUCATION,……..Love Dad

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By: emsgeiss http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/#comment-639 emsgeiss Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:20:41 +0000 http://geisswordsmith.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-639 Thanks Tim for your comments! Thanks C-Guru, I'm sure your insight will be appreciated, and should the chance occur, I look forward to meeting you too, (in person that is). Onward to November! Thanks Tim for your comments!
Thanks C-Guru, I’m sure your insight will be appreciated, and should the chance occur, I look forward to meeting you too, (in person that is).
Onward to November!

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By: Communications Guru http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/#comment-638 Communications Guru Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:59:06 +0000 http://geisswordsmith.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-638 Congratulations; I look forward to meeting your husband and campaigning for him. After working in the House for a couple of years, I know he has his work cut out for him. Congratulations; I look forward to meeting your husband and campaigning for him. After working in the House for a couple of years, I know he has his work cut out for him.

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By: Tim Hernandez http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/#comment-637 Tim Hernandez Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:25:48 +0000 http://geisswordsmith.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-637 Erika, Good job explaining your stance and, sheding some light into the primary process here in Taylor. No candidate can be the choice of everyone, and that is fine, we all have our choices and Democracy allows us to make them. The final proof will be in the 'pudding' of the Primary. Give Doug my best and know that your time to relax is almost here, one way or another. Erika,

Good job explaining your stance and, sheding some light into the primary process here in Taylor.

No candidate can be the choice of everyone, and that is fine, we all have our choices and Democracy allows us to make them.

The final proof will be in the ‘pudding’ of the Primary.

Give Doug my best and know that your time to relax is almost here, one way or another.

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By: emsgeiss http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/#comment-636 emsgeiss Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:18:13 +0000 http://geisswordsmith.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-636 Note: should've read November 4, not November 11 in the previous comment. Brain drain, here...just a bit of brain drain. -Erika Note: should’ve read November 4, not November 11 in the previous comment. Brain drain, here…just a bit of brain drain.
-Erika

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By: emsgeiss http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/#comment-635 emsgeiss Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:23:17 +0000 http://geisswordsmith.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-635 Thanks for visiting K.J. I appreciate the visit. As you yourself have said at Communications Guru, we are all entitled to our opinions. You have yours, I have mine, I am aware of certain things that you're unaware of, but that's beside the point. I apologize for mis-attributing you as being "a conservative blogger." (Now that you've clarified the blog title vs. your political stance, it makes sense...I agree that is the case with most of the media. I *do* however, understand that the Legislature does represent the entire state and the interests of all districts. What I found interesting/relevant is your specific interest in Ms. Brandana. The only other districts that I found you mentioning for this year's race are the 66th and 47th (your own). Grant it, I didn't go through your entire archive--don't have time, 1) I'm on deadline (which as a former journalist, yourself, you understand); and 2) the primary's tomorrow, and being a Legislative staffer, I don't have to tell you what the day before the primary's like, as I'm sure you've worked on many a campaign. You also don't know my husband, I don't think there's anyone in Taylor who knows him and/or his record, who would accuse him of "telling someone something just to please them," save for a small group. It's not his style, it never has been, and unlike many of his colleagues, I've known him pretty much close to half of my life and can say that with great confidence. Doug's no "yes man." He speaks his mind and votes his conscience, even if it means that someone may not like it. Not everyone is like that...there are people (and we've all met or worked with them in some capacity at some point in our lifetimes or careers) who are more concerned about being liked than doing what's correct. Furthermore, Doug has been very specific about where he stands on the issues. Have *you* spoken to him directly about the issues, or are you just reading/hearing snippets of information (and often repurposed) taken from the vast array of surveys that the candidates have to fill out? Regarding the ad: It was only accurate in the sense that the clips were taken from real events, however they were cut and spliced in such a way that doesn't portray the entire story. (I don't know if you've seen the entire tape from the town hall meeting in Romulus or from the council meeting. I have seen both. In fact, I watched the council meeting live and know what was edited out of it to make that bogus commercial; so does everyone who was present. As for the pooling of resources, yes...Taylor taxpayers, Inkster taxpayers, Romulus taxpayers and Dearborn Heights taxpayers all put money in because all four communities were stakeholders in the airport issue. I'm surprised that as a Legislative staffer, that you don't understand how that works. Were the airport in Inkster, let's say, and not in a city in the 22nd District, the emphasis on fighting whatever airport master plan changes that would have the same community welfare effect as the 5th parallel runway proposal had, would have been no different. (Note, I'm taking into account any differences b/c of geography and orientation were the airport in a different city than Romulus, but still affecting our area and extrapolating.) Campaign for State Rep for the 22nd District or not, Doug would have been just as interested in the issue as well...the proposed runway would have had planes flying right over our house....so as homeowners, we were stakeholders as was every other citizen in the four communities affected. As a City Councilman, he was representing his community. Again, I ask where exactly was Ms. Brandana during the public meetings. Even if they were held during the day, I am sure that Mr. Feiger would have given her the time off necessary to attend such an important event, given his interest in doing what's right for us little people, had she really been willing to make the effort. (All she did was vote to pass the resolution for the city to join the fight.) But that's all water under the bridge now anyway, since the issue has been resolved. Hey, no matter what the outcome is tomorrow, hopefully, whomever makes it through the primary tomorrow and on to November, that once the final ballots are cast in November that all of our elected officials can work together (and staffers) to get the job done for Michigan and its citizens. I'm sure on that, at least, we can agree. And please note, I'm not stating that with any implications for my husband's success tomorrow. Sure, I hope he wins just as you hope Jill wins, and that there are Mulka supporters who hope that he wins. But after tomorrow, the key thing will be what happens from August 6th through November 11, and that after tomorrow night's election results come in, that as Democrats we work together to take back the House, and that whomever wins from all of our respective districts in November, that they can work with their colleagues across the aisle regardless of which of our favorite candidates can claim a primary victory.) N'est pas? Thanks for visiting K.J. I appreciate the visit. As you yourself have said at Communications Guru, we are all entitled to our opinions. You have yours, I have mine, I am aware of certain things that you’re unaware of, but that’s beside the point. I apologize for mis-attributing you as being “a conservative blogger.” (Now that you’ve clarified the blog title vs. your political stance, it makes sense…I agree that is the case with most of the media.

I *do* however, understand that the Legislature does represent the entire state and the interests of all districts. What I found interesting/relevant is your specific interest in Ms. Brandana. The only other districts that I found you mentioning for this year’s race are the 66th and 47th (your own). Grant it, I didn’t go through your entire archive–don’t have time, 1) I’m on deadline (which as a former journalist, yourself, you understand); and 2) the primary’s tomorrow, and being a Legislative staffer, I don’t have to tell you what the day before the primary’s like, as I’m sure you’ve worked on many a campaign. You also don’t know my husband, I don’t think there’s anyone in Taylor who knows him and/or his record, who would accuse him of “telling someone something just to please them,” save for a small group. It’s not his style, it never has been, and unlike many of his colleagues, I’ve known him pretty much close to half of my life and can say that with great confidence. Doug’s no “yes man.” He speaks his mind and votes his conscience, even if it means that someone may not like it. Not everyone is like that…there are people (and we’ve all met or worked with them in some capacity at some point in our lifetimes or careers) who are more concerned about being liked than doing what’s correct. Furthermore, Doug has been very specific about where he stands on the issues. Have *you* spoken to him directly about the issues, or are you just reading/hearing snippets of information (and often repurposed) taken from the vast array of surveys that the candidates have to fill out?

Regarding the ad: It was only accurate in the sense that the clips were taken from real events, however they were cut and spliced in such a way that doesn’t portray the entire story. (I don’t know if you’ve seen the entire tape from the town hall meeting in Romulus or from the council meeting. I have seen both. In fact, I watched the council meeting live and know what was edited out of it to make that bogus commercial; so does everyone who was present.

As for the pooling of resources, yes…Taylor taxpayers, Inkster taxpayers, Romulus taxpayers and Dearborn Heights taxpayers all put money in because all four communities were stakeholders in the airport issue. I’m surprised that as a Legislative staffer, that you don’t understand how that works. Were the airport in Inkster, let’s say, and not in a city in the 22nd District, the emphasis on fighting whatever airport master plan changes that would have the same community welfare effect as the 5th parallel runway proposal had, would have been no different. (Note, I’m taking into account any differences b/c of geography and orientation were the airport in a different city than Romulus, but still affecting our area and extrapolating.) Campaign for State Rep for the 22nd District or not, Doug would have been just as interested in the issue as well…the proposed runway would have had planes flying right over our house….so as homeowners, we were stakeholders as was every other citizen in the four communities affected. As a City Councilman, he was representing his community. Again, I ask where exactly was Ms. Brandana during the public meetings. Even if they were held during the day, I am sure that Mr. Feiger would have given her the time off necessary to attend such an important event, given his interest in doing what’s right for us little people, had she really been willing to make the effort. (All she did was vote to pass the resolution for the city to join the fight.) But that’s all water under the bridge now anyway, since the issue has been resolved.

Hey, no matter what the outcome is tomorrow, hopefully, whomever makes it through the primary tomorrow and on to November, that once the final ballots are cast in November that all of our elected officials can work together (and staffers) to get the job done for Michigan and its citizens. I’m sure on that, at least, we can agree. And please note, I’m not stating that with any implications for my husband’s success tomorrow. Sure, I hope he wins just as you hope Jill wins, and that there are Mulka supporters who hope that he wins. But after tomorrow, the key thing will be what happens from August 6th through November 11, and that after tomorrow night’s election results come in, that as Democrats we work together to take back the House, and that whomever wins from all of our respective districts in November, that they can work with their colleagues across the aisle regardless of which of our favorite candidates can claim a primary victory.)
N’est pas?

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By: Communications Guru http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/#comment-634 Communications Guru Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:11:42 +0000 http://geisswordsmith.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-634 There is an awful lot of stuff in this post that is questionable, but it’s hard to find fault with a wife defending her husband. Instead, I will just address the misinformation you put out about me. I am in no way a “conservative blogger.” I’m a liberal Democrat, but the name of the blog is “The Conservative Media” because that’s the case. I live in Michigan, and the Legislature represents the entire state, as well as the 22nd District. I can tell you this – and it’s disturbing you don’t know this – the Legislature address issues every day that affects the entire state, not just Taylor and Romulus. I don’t want someone “malleable up in Lansing.” What I want is someone who tells you their position, and will not then turn around and tell someone else something else just to please them. Brandana’s endorsements are from people who represent Democratic values, as are your husband’s endorsements. As for the Taylor police, I really have no idea if they live in Taylor or not. What I do know is the city seems to want to blame PA 312 for the high salaries and the high pensions and want to repel it. The fact is PA 312 is not the culprit; the culprit is the City Council. As for the ad, it’s accurate and relevant. You keep talking about “pooling money,” but it’s still dollars from Taylor taxpayers. The bottom line is it’s great we have three qualified candidates. As I said on my blog, your husband is a great candidate, but he’s the second best candidate in the race. There is an awful lot of stuff in this post that is questionable, but it’s hard to find fault with a wife defending her husband. Instead, I will just address the misinformation you put out about me. I am in no way a “conservative blogger.” I’m a liberal Democrat, but the name of the blog is “The Conservative Media” because that’s the case. I live in Michigan, and the Legislature represents the entire state, as well as the 22nd District. I can tell you this – and it’s disturbing you don’t know this – the Legislature address issues every day that affects the entire state, not just Taylor and Romulus. I don’t want someone “malleable up in Lansing.” What I want is someone who tells you their position, and will not then turn around and tell someone else something else just to please them.

Brandana’s endorsements are from people who represent Democratic values, as are your husband’s endorsements. As for the Taylor police, I really have no idea if they live in Taylor or not. What I do know is the city seems to want to blame PA 312 for the high salaries and the high pensions and want to repel it. The fact is PA 312 is not the culprit; the culprit is the City Council.

As for the ad, it’s accurate and relevant. You keep talking about “pooling money,” but it’s still dollars from Taylor taxpayers.

The bottom line is it’s great we have three qualified candidates. As I said on my blog, your husband is a great candidate, but he’s the second best candidate in the race.

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By: SwedeDad http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/#comment-633 SwedeDad Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:27:14 +0000 http://geisswordsmith.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-633 "Democracy is the worst system of government known: save for all the others humans have tried." People in deomcratic countries, alas, get the government they deserve. I hope these tricks don't work. And also that Doug will be interested in solving Michigan's problems. Which, when one compares its economy to its neighbors, appear to be largely self inflicted, “Democracy is the worst system of government known: save for all the others humans have tried.” People in deomcratic countries, alas, get the government they deserve. I hope these tricks don’t work. And also that Doug will be interested in solving Michigan’s problems. Which, when one compares its economy to its neighbors, appear to be largely self inflicted,

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By: emsgeiss http://musingsfromthemitten.com/2008/08/01/brandana-a-discredit-to-women-in-politics/#comment-632 emsgeiss Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:28:26 +0000 http://geisswordsmith.wordpress.com/?p=222#comment-632 Jeff, clearly you have taken the phrase literally. Why won't you just simply run for office? You should. Where have I slung any mud? Was anything I said or asked you about inaccurate? How do you figure that Doug sprung from back room deals? He ran, just like every candidate, and on his first try running, had the 2nd highest number of votes. How do you figure D.C. was Doug's "training ground"? It had been 15 years between being his being a Congressional Page and his first time on the ballot. He wasn't in D.C. during those years; he was in Michigan, living in Taylor, except for when he was a student at UMich-Ann Arbor. How is it that you could possibly know more about Doug's history than I, when I've known him for 18 years? When one is dissatisfied with government, you work to change it in a proactive manner. Grassroots organizations are wonderful, powerful things; but when they use hateful tactics, that's not constructive at all. That's all I'm saying, and that's all I'm suggesting you do -- be proactive, not a voice of hatred and if you really have a problem with the government, get involved and run for a seat that will give you the ability to implement the changes that you think should be made. As untoward as Ms. Brandana's ways might be with this campaign, and as much as I might criticize *how* she's let her campaign be run, at least she has the guts to put herself out there. What have you done that's constructive? Have a pleasant evening, and I guess we'll all see how things turn out when the polls close on Tuesday. I've already said it and I'll say it again, when the polls close, win or lose, Doug and everyone associated with him will be able to rest peacefully, knowing that we have all conducted ourselves in a civil manner. Jeff, clearly you have taken the phrase literally. Why won’t you just simply run for office? You should.
Where have I slung any mud? Was anything I said or asked you about inaccurate? How do you figure that Doug sprung from back room deals? He ran, just like every candidate, and on his first try running, had the 2nd highest number of votes. How do you figure D.C. was Doug’s “training ground”? It had been 15 years between being his being a Congressional Page and his first time on the ballot. He wasn’t in D.C. during those years; he was in Michigan, living in Taylor, except for when he was a student at UMich-Ann Arbor. How is it that you could possibly know more about Doug’s history than I, when I’ve known him for 18 years?

When one is dissatisfied with government, you work to change it in a proactive manner. Grassroots organizations are wonderful, powerful things; but when they use hateful tactics, that’s not constructive at all. That’s all I’m saying, and that’s all I’m suggesting you do — be proactive, not a voice of hatred and if you really have a problem with the government, get involved and run for a seat that will give you the ability to implement the changes that you think should be made.

As untoward as Ms. Brandana’s ways might be with this campaign, and as much as I might criticize *how* she’s let her campaign be run, at least she has the guts to put herself out there. What have you done that’s constructive?

Have a pleasant evening, and I guess we’ll all see how things turn out when the polls close on Tuesday. I’ve already said it and I’ll say it again, when the polls close, win or lose, Doug and everyone associated with him will be able to rest peacefully, knowing that we have all conducted ourselves in a civil manner.

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